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+<title>Richard Stallman at the First Hackers Conference in 1984
+- GNU Project - Free Software Foundation</title>
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+<h2>Richard Stallman at the First Hackers Conference in 1984</h2>
+<div class="thin"></div>
+
+<p>The first Hackers Conference was held in Sausalito, California, in
+November 1984. The makers of the documentary <cite>Hackers: Wizards of
+the Electronic Age</cite> interviewed Richard Stallman at the event.
+They included only parts of the interviews in the film, but made some
+other footage available. Stallman's statements at the conference went
+beyond what he had written in the <a
+href="/gnu/initial-announcement.html">initial announcement of GNU</a>.</p>
+
+<p>It was at this conference that Richard Stallman first publicly and
+explicitly stated the idea that <em>all software should be free</em>,
+and makes it clear that &ldquo;free&rdquo; refers to freedom, not price,
+by saying that software should be <em>freely</em> accessible to
+everyone. This was probably the first time he made that distinction to
+the public.</p>
+
+<p>Stallman continues by explaining why it is wrong to agree to accept a
+program on condition of not sharing it with others. So what can one
+say about a business based on developing nonfree software and luring
+others into accepting that condition? Such things are bad for society
+and shouldn't be done at all. (In later years he used stronger
+condemnation.)</p>
+
+<p>Here are the things he said:</p>
+
+ <blockquote>
+ <p><i>&ldquo;My project is to make all software free.&rdquo;</i></p>
+ </blockquote>
+
+ <blockquote>
+ <p><i>&ldquo;Imagine if you bought a house and the basement was locked
+ and only the original building contractor had the key. If you needed
+ to make any change, repair anything, you'd have to go to him, and if
+ he was too busy doing something else he'd tell you to get lost and
+ you'd be stuck. You are at that person's mercy and you become
+ downtrodden and resigned. That's what happens when the blueprints to a
+ computer program are kept secret by the organization that sells it.
+ That's the usual way things are done.&rdquo;</i>
+ <a href="//audio-video.gnu.org/video/rms-at-first-hackers-conference-1984.webm">
+ Video</a></p>
+ </blockquote>
+
+ <blockquote>
+ <p><i>&ldquo;If I'm offered a chance to use a piece of software
+ provided I would agree not to share it with anyone, I feel that it
+ would be wrong, it would spiritually&#8239;<a href="#Note1" id="Note1-rev">[1]</a>
+ hurt me to agree. So I don't want them investing in software that's owned.
+ And I don't believe that anything is justified to encourage them to invest in
+ software that's owned. I think the really great software has been done by
+ hackers who were doing it because they loved it, because it was playful
+ cleverness, and that will continue in any case. I think there are
+ alternative ways of arranging for some amount of money to go into
+ paying salaries of people, paying them to spend their time writing
+ programs. If people want certain kinds of programs to be written, they
+ can come up with other forms of organization&mdash;I can suggest a
+ few&mdash;but the important thing is there are lots of alternative
+ ways of doing things. This one has been chosen because it gets the
+ people investing in software companies the most profits of any of the
+ available ways.&rdquo;</i>
+ <a
+ href="https://web.archive.org/web/20161107235202/https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/video/at-the-first-hackers-conference-in-1984-richard-stallman-news-footage/146485179">Video</a></p>
+ </blockquote>
+
+ <blockquote>
+ <p><i>&ldquo;I don't think it's a social imperative to give them the
+ most possible profit. I think the social imperative is that
+ information that's developed should be accessible to everyone as freely
+ as possible. If we look at the principle underlying&mdash;the incentive
+ principle, give people incentives to do the things you wish to
+ encourage&mdash;and then we say, &lsquo;what are we giving people
+ incentives for?&rsquo; we see that we are not giving them any
+ incentives to do the things that benefit society most. If a person has
+ a choice, he can write a program and then encourage everyone to use it
+ in any way that's good for him or he can write the program and then
+ market it hoarding the plans, telling people they are not allowed to
+ share it with their neighbors, being very obnoxious and obstructive.
+ We see he has an incentive to be obnoxious and obstructive, he doesn't
+ have an incentive to cooperate. I think that's sick, I think that's a
+ bad social organization, because we are encouraging most what's not
+ good for us.&rdquo;</i>
+ <a
+ href="https://web.archive.org/web/20161108001731/https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/video/at-the-first-hackers-conference-in-1984-richard-stallman-news-footage/146484701">Video</a></p>
+ </blockquote>
+
+<hr class="thin" />
+
+<h3 class="footnote">Footnote</h3>
+
+<p> <a href="#Note1-rev" id="Note1">[1]</a>
+Subsequently Stallman decided to stop using the word &ldquo;spiritually,&rdquo;
+so that people would not think he meant to refer to anything supernatural.</p>
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